Co-option of the 5G Space Appeal to collectivise stop 5G movement

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From: Stop5GAppeal <stop5gappeal>
Date: 19 January 2020 at 15:30:39 GMT-7
To: Attention-5G <info>
Cc: “team” <team>, ‘Arthur Firstenberg’ <info>, ‘Denmark’ <pernille.schriver>, ‘Czech Republic -Mojmir Babacek’ <mbabacek>, ‘Italy’ <maurizio.martucci>, ‘Austria’ <Petra.brandl>, ‘Spain <luciavalleg>, “” <>, ‘Spain Jose Miguel Rodriguez Fundacion’ <josemiguel.rodriguez>, ‘Poland’ <barbara.galdzinska>, ‘France’ <chloe.ridel25>, ‘France’ <darazi>, ‘Finnland – Rainer Nyberg’ <NRNyberg>, ‘Sweden – Henrik ‘ <post4>, ‘Bulgarien – Zoe Huber-Ritschl’ <zoemotion>, ‘United Kingdom – Ina Hurst’ <hurst_ina>, ‘Germany -‘ <jan.altnickel>
Subject: Co-option of the 5G Space Appeal to collectivise stop 5G movement
Reply-To: Stop5GAppeal <stop5gappeal>

Dear Jan and Eduard

Co-option of the International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space in order to collectivise and misdirect the stop 5G movement

I have severed my connection with the International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and In Space and withdrawn my name as a signatory, despite the fact that I am one of the authors, the sole editor, designer and administrator of all of the 30 language versions, and despite having devoted myself full time to promoting the Appeal throughout 2019. This is because Arthur Firstenberg, the administrator of the Appeal, has effectively merged the Appeal into stop5ginternational by endorsing it and becoming an executive member of it himself. I did not consent to this and explicitly told Arthur that the Appeal should not be associated with stop5ginternational because it has dubious ties and, during a ten-day exchange of emails, stop5ginternational refused to provide transparency about its funding, its backing and the hosting of its website.

A woman called Nicolya Christi infiltrated the stop 5G movement starting in June 2019. The timing coincided with the pushback of mainstream fake news launched across the world and singing from the same songbook as of May 2019. Her stated intention was – in her own words – to collectivise and lead the stop 5G movement via a “round table”. She is the coordinator of the Worldshift movement, which was started by Ervin Laszlo, himself the leader of Club of Rome in Hungary and initiator of the Club of Budapest by agreement with Aurelio Peccei, founder of the Club of Rome. The Club of Budapest is the social engineering arm of Club of Rome. “The WorldShift Network was designated as being responsible for the international projects of the Club of Budapest as well as for the coordination of the National Clubs.” In its own words, Worldshift states the following

  • “It is the responsibility of the people to choose leadership that is knowledgeable and wise
  • We base ourselves on the Club of Rome Limits to Growth in 1972
  • “We need to replace the obsolete notions of nation-states
  • We need a “whole-system shift
  • “The human community needs comprehensive structural reform
  • “We need to leave everything we know behind in order to get to where we need to go.”
  • A systemic thorough reinvention of every aspect of humanity
  • “We are at a point in time when the spiritual dimension must become paramount in issues of decision making.”
  • “All states should establish an office for the specific fulfillment of the Millennium Development Goals” [later morphed into Agenda 21/2030]
  • Capital must be protected as other property rights”
  • A new bottom line must be established which incorporates the well-being of the environment and of people as part of the social bargain of society as a limited liability entity.”
  • “We must implement a proper valuation of the natural world independent of human interests”
  • “National sovereignty must be balanced with universal norms and values.”
  • “The human future and financial markets must be sustainable”
  • We need a “Global Environment Economy”
  • “We must … partner one another through the greatest social transformation ever known.”

These statements smack of dictatorship and Maoist Cultural Revolution. Now we see the Red Guards of the Extinction Rebellion death cult and school students encouraged to start intergenerational warfare, supported explicitly by the Club of Rome in a statement dated 14 March 2019 (

Nicolya Christi denied her association with Ervin Laszlo, Club of Budapest and another person at the centre of “sustainable development” (widely regarded as a euphemism for depopulation) in an email dated 31 December 2019. On her Worldshift website, she explicitly endorses Extinction Rebellion, Greta Thunberg and the enforcement of 50% wilderness areas on the earth by 2030.

There has been a great deal of covering up of the tracks of this infiltration through the deletion of the entire Ervin Laszlo website and many pages on the Worldshift website. No doubt in the light of this email there will be further deletions so I suggest to all those reading this email that they do not delay in doing their own research.

The members of stop5ginternational chose to attack and slander me instead of responding to reasonable requests for transparency and full disclosure. Arthur Firstenberg acted unethically by unilaterally aligning the 5G Space Appeal with a third-party organisation choosing to bring itself into disrepute by associating with dubious agendas. Only these actors themselves know if they are naive, ignorant or corrupted.

The climate change agenda and the “science” of the International Panel on Climate Change have been challenged by over 1,000 scientists. The climate change scam was openly adopted as a Club of Rome ploy in order to manipulate populations into voting for their own demise (“The real enemy is humanity itself”). Greta Thunberg is a brain-damaged child set up as a global icon and Pied Piper. She has an eidetic memory, a Soros-funded handler and parents in the theatrical business.

5G is the end game of the depopulation agenda of Club of Rome, intended to depopulate the earth and usher in a total surveillance system as exists currently in China – where 13 million people have already been made non-persons – and a one-world, totalitarian government. The aims of the climate change agenda are identical. Espousing the fake climate change agenda death cult is antithetical to any genuine desire to stop the intended 5G population cull. Therefore the two movements must not be merged into one.

Everything in this email can be corroborated by Internet searches. None of this evidence is “conspiracy theory” (a meme created by the CIA in the 1960s to stop people questioning the absurdities of the Warren Commission report on the JFK assassination). It is conspiracy fact. Any future ad hominem attacks on me would be proof that the accusers are not interested in establishing the facts and cannot face the truth of their own naivety or delusion.

I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own decisions. Collectivising the stop 5G movement plays into the hands of the perpetrators of 5G since it offers them the opportunity of misdirecting a global movement. It is vital that stop 5G groups and individuals across the world remain independent and autonomous and above all, unpredictable.

Given that the merger between stop5ginternational and the 5G Space Appeal is now a fait accompli, registering one’s data with either stop5ginternational and/or the 5G Space Appeal could render those data vulnerable to retaliation. Only by overwhelming the perpetrators by force of numbers (of individuals) and original, creative ideas to overturn their grip on power will we win. We are David. They are Goliath. Let us keep in mind who won!

Claire Edwards

UN Editor and Trainer (Retired)

Stop 5G Campaigner


Nachricht von Claire Edwards, 8.1.2020

Message from Claire Edwards 8.1.2020

Message en français de Claire Edwards 8.1.2020

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐

On Saturday, January 18, 2020 4:31 PM, Attention-5G <info> wrote:

Thank you very much for your initiative to organize the “Global-5G-Protest-Day”!

We, as an institutionalised European Initiative (ECI) called “Attention 5G”, have already had the opportunity to get to know Claire Edwards personally and exchange information with her. This was at an international “Stop-5G”-Meeting on 29.06.2019 in Mendrisio/Switzerland, which was organized by Maurizio Martucci (Italy). There we had the privilege of introducing ourselves as ECI.

The ECI, founded in May 2019, is the right answer for activities in the area of EU member states with a concept of multi-track strategic action components. The legal framework is now being set by the governments of the EU-Member-States with joint resolutions in the European Union. Only by changing the legal framework at European level can we make a difference to an untested 4G-5G-6G roll-out. In Europe, we established national citizens’ committees alongside a multinational European Citizens’ Committee, which is registered with the European Commission. The application for registration with the EU Commission is currently being reviewed by an expert.

We will provide the infrastructure – an own website – for a international digital network (collaboration platform). But we are all dependent on the support and backing of a broad civil society and NGOs to prevent the omnipresent radiation in our living environment and also to be able to implement effective activities in all areas of society.

We have now called on our supporters to join the Global 5G protest day. We ask all initiatives that the ECI (European Citizens’ Initiative “Attention 5G”) appears on their website as a supporter of the Global 5G Protest Day.

We very glad to be in contact with you and are looking forward to network with you. Jan Altnickel is responsible for international relationship. Please contact him: jan.altnickel

With best regards

Eduard Meßmer, Political Scientist (M.A.)


5G Space Appeal Will Be Ready by October 21

The International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space, together with complete lists of signatures from scientists, doctors, veterinarians, beekeepers, and other professionals, individuals and organizations from almost every country, will be available in PDF format on our website approximately one week from today. I am working day and night proofreading all the signatures, removing duplicates, etc., so that it will be ready for you to deliver to your governments.

If you have not yet signed the Appeal, there is still time to sign. If you have signed before, please do not sign again.



More 5G Satellites to Be Launched
by SpaceX at the End of October

Demonstrations against 5G on Earth have been taking place in many parts of the world (see below for the most recent events). Alarmingly, 5G in Space is being ignored. There is a reason this Appeal is called the 5G Space Appeal: the antennas on the ground will not matter if 5G in Space puts an end to all life. We have only about four months to prevent this.

I became active in 1995, not to oppose cell towers, but because Sarah Benson called me from Australia, wanting me to help her organize to stop Bill Gates and Craig McCaw from launching 840 satellites into the ionosphere for an “Internet in the Sky.” That plan never materialized, but Sarah’s fears that such a plan could destroy all life on Earth were correct.

On September 23, 1998, a company called Iridium activated 66 satellites that it had launched into the ionosphere for global cell phone service. On that morning, a majority of electrically sensitive people became suddenly ill, all over the world—so ill that many were not sure they would live. For the next two weeks, birds were not flying in the sky. Homing pigeons got lost by the thousands, and the sport of pigeon racing never recovered. Weekly mortality for the United States rose by four to five percent.

A second satellite phone service, Globalstar, began commercial service with only 48 satellites on February 28, 2000. Again came reports of nausea, headaches, leg pain, respiratory problems, depression, and lack of energy, all over the world, both from “electrically sensitive” people and from “normal” people.

Iridium emerged from bankruptcy and resumed satellite phone service on March 30, 2001. Again came reports of nausea, flu-like illness and feelings of oppression, as well as catastrophic losses of race horse foals, all over the world. On June 5, 2001, Iridium added data and Internet to its satellite service. Again came widespread reports of nausea, flu-like illness, oppression, and hoarseness.

The reason for such a drastic effect from a small number of satellites is not the direct radiation on the surface of the Earth, but the pollution of the ionosphere with millions of pulsed signals. This alters the Earth’s electromagnetic environment in which we all live, and pollutes the global electrical circuit that passes through every living thing, upon which we all depend for life and health. For the details, please read my article, “Planetary Emergency,” which I wrote on May 14, 2018. I predicted catastrophe within two years. SpaceX is right on schedule. It plans to launch 60 more satellites in late October or early November, another 180 satellites by the end of this year, and to begin what it calls “minimal” global service as soon as it has 420 satellites in place, which could be as early as February 2020. Eventually SpaceX plans to have 12,000 5G satellites in the ionosphere, but 420 is already more than six times as many as Iridium, and earthly creatures may not stand the assault.

If you are organizing events, please always talk about both the antennas and the satellites. If you are meeting with government officials, please tell them that the satellites must not go into operation. I have had a letter delivered to Kimbal Musk, who is an environmentalist and who is on the board of directors of SpaceX. Please contact me if you want to help.

European Demonstrations against 5G

The following demonstrations against 5G took place recently in Europe:

  • September 9, protest and march in The Hague, Netherlands (more than one thousand people)
  • September 21 on the Bundesplatz in Bern, Switzerland (several thousand people)
  • September 21 on the Platz der Menschenrechte (Plaza of Human Rights) in Vienna, Austria
  • September 22 on the Platz der Republik in Berlin, Germany (600 people)

News about Our Federal Lawsuit against 5G

As far as I know, the lawsuit we filed in Santa Fe, New Mexico in December 2018 is the only one of its kind in the world. Our intention is to put radio frequency radiation on trial, which has never been done before.

There are other lawsuits related to 5G. In the United States, almost 100 cities and counties, 19 Indian tribes, and the Natural Resources Defense Council have filed lawsuits against the Federal Communications Commission, and the NRDC and the Indian tribes have already won in court. But the FCC is the wrong defendant because the FCC only enforces the laws passed by Congress, and reversing an FCC order does not stop the rollout of 5G. These lawsuits are not asking the courts to halt 5G, they are not putting RF radiation on trial, and they are not addressing the constitutional violations that are costing people their health, their property, their freedom, and their lives.

Our organization, the Santa Fe Alliance for Public Health and Safety, has sued the City of Santa Fe, the Attorney General of New Mexico, and the United States of America. We are asking the court to declare that a City ordinance, a State law, and Section 704 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 are unconstitutional and void. These laws are causing injury and are depriving people of any remedy for their injuries.

On September 3, 2019, we filed a motion for preliminary injunction asking the court to halt the construction of antennas on the sidewalks of Santa Fe pending trial. The government defendants filed responses, and on October 1, 2019, we filed our reply.

We are in urgent need of funds to support this lawsuit. We are not asking for money from the government defendants, so the money to pay our lawyers and expert witnesses must come from donations. Please contribute what you can. What we do here will benefit you, no matter where you are in the world, and I don’t see anyone else doing anything similar in any other court.

If you wish to make a wire transfer or a stock transfer, or if you have specific questions, please contact me directly by email or phone. All donations from US residents are tax deductible. Our Tax ID Number is 11-3394550.

You can also support our work by purchasing my book, The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life (AGB Press 2017). It is the first book that tells the history of electricity from an environmental point of view. It documents the rise of cancer, heart disease and diabetes alongside the development of electricity, and explains exactly why this is so. It explains why people can hear RF radiation, and why influenza did not exist as a yearly disease until 1889 when electricity was first used for light and power around the world. Dr. Kate Showers of the University of Sussex has likened it to Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring. The Invisible Rainbow is entertaining, difficult to put down, and has a bibliography that is 137 pages long. I have about 750 copies left.

Buy The Invisible Rainbow
I will send out another newsletter next week when the PDFs of the Appeal and signatories are posted on our website and are ready for delivery to your governments.

Arthur Firstenberg, Administrator
International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space
P.O. Box 6216
Santa Fe, NM 87502
Tel: +1 505-471-0129
Email: info


5G proeven ook in Leeuwarden?

Hallo Petra Vlutters

Het ministerie van Wiebes EZ heeft toestemming gegeven voor de proeven met 5G in Maastricht.

De gemeente wist nergens van, en is daar zeer ontevreden over.

Bijgevolg zal ook gem Leeuwarden van niks weten, als er proeven zijn gedaan met 5G.
Om er nu achter te komen, of er in Leeuwarden is getest, zo ja met of zonder toestemming van het ministerie kom je dus alleen achter via een vraag, aan het ministerie.

Wij willen jou verzoeken een schriftelijke vraag te stellen aan het College van B en W, of men na wil gaan bij het ministerie EZ of er in gemeente Leeuwarden is geëxperimenteerd met 5 G.

Deze tekst zou je eventueel kunnen gebruiken:

In Maastricht is gebleken dat het ministerie EZ toestemming heeft gegeven aan Vodafone/Kpn om proeven te doen met 5G, zie bijlage.
De gemeente en de bevolking daarvan in onkunde latend.
Is het College bereid navraag te doen bij het ministerie EZ, dhr Wiebes, of dergelijke proeven ook in de gemeente Leeuwarden hebben plaatsgevonden. Zo ja, wanneer, en voor hoe lang?

Is het college tevens bereid en in staat ook zelfstandig navraag te doen bij de grote providers alhier?

Wij hopen spoedig van je te horen, bij voorbaat dank

Met vriendelijke groet,

Manon Schmale en Rinske Balsma



Dag Manon Schmale,

Hartelijk dank voor deze adequate informatie!
Ik heb onlangs onze wethouder er naar gevraagd, en die heeft inderdaad nog niets gehoord over een aanvraag. Uit uw bericht begrijp ik dat dat lang niet alles zegt.
Ook heb ik landelijk navraag gedaan bij onze partij en zijn er binnen GroenLinks meerdere gemeenten die zich ernstig zorgen maken over 5G.

Ik ga er mee aan de slag!

Nogmaals bedankt.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Petra Vlutters
Raadslid Pal GroenLinks

T 058 2670735 / 06 48673221

M petra.vlutters


Het 5G congres op 15 september in de Melkweg (update) en veel meer

Emil Moller, specialist in transitieprocessen zal Barrie Trouwer intervieuwen op 15 september 2019 in de Melkweg, 5G the Trojan horse: Ultimate Science Deel 1

Beste Iedereen,

Er is momenteel sprake van een grote kans dat onomkeerbare beslissingen worden genomen die ons allen ziek, onveilig, onvrij en arm maken. Dat klinkt ernstig en dat is het ook.

Het betreft het nieuwe mobiele netwerk [‘5g’], wat in hoog tempo verplicht wordt uitgerold, nieuwe technologische toepassingen mogelijk maakt en gouden bergen belooft. Dit staat in schril contrast met 30.000 onderzoeken naar het militaire gebruik van 5g en met 25.000 onderzoeken naar de biologische effecten van elektromagnetische velden.

Waarom horen we daarover niets van de bestuurlijke of commerciële kringen, Milieudefensie, Greenpeace enz., politieke partijen of in traditionele media?

ICNIRP/Eric van Rongen

Er is 1 organisatie in de wereld waar alle overheden, adviesraden, NGO’s, politieke partijen, bedrijven, media, naar verwijzen als het om elektromagnetische velden [EMV] gaat. En dat is ICNIRP: International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection.

Het blijkt uit ervaring dat deze organisaties zelf niet goed op de hoogte zijn en hun kennisniveau verrassend laag betreffende EMV. Zij gaan daarom al snel over tot het verwijzen naar elkaar en ten slotte naar ICNIRP [zie bijvoorbeeld de correspondentie erover].

Daarom heeft Emil Möller uit Maastricht, waar 5G als eerste operationeel is geworden, besloten de voorzitter van ICNIRP, Eric van Rongen op te zoeken. Zie het interview en een presentatie met de politieke keuzes.

Men kan opmaken uit het interview met de voorzitter van ICNIRP, dat hij welwillend staat tegenover het bijstellen van wat nu precies schadelijke EMV is. De ICNIRP  blijkt zichzelf  als ‘ideëel gedreven’ en ‘wetenschappelijk nieuwsgierig’ te beschouwen. Eric van Rongen reageerde positief op het voorstel van Emil Möller om het blikveld van ICNIRP te verbreden (‘voortschrijdend inzicht’) door onder andere:

  1. onder media-aandacht maakt een notaris een selectie van 1000 rapporten uit de beschikbare  55.000 wetenschappelijke onderzoeken naar de gezondheidsrisico’s van EMV
  2. deze selectie te laten onderzoeken door de hoogste klassen van middelbare scholen en hen na een jaar verslag te laten doen
  3. een moratorium inzake de uitrol in te stellen [obv het voorzorgsbeginsel], totdat de uitkomsten binnen zijn
  4. de voorstanders en hun gezinnen voor te stellen deel te nemen aan een pilot waarin alles smart is; thuis, op het werk, onderweg en op vakantie. Resultaten van onderzoeken naar hun geestelijke en lichamelijke welbevinden melden ten tijde van de verslagen van de scholieren.


Dat betekent dat de uitvoering van een project dat ‘zijn’ ideeën verwerkelijkt, kan rekenen op medewerking van alle betrokken partijen en een project relatief makkelijk succesvol zal maken. Het project zou betaald kunnen worden door het EU 100 miljoen euro project in Groningen.

Die zullen dat waarschijnlijk graag doen, omdat het het draagvlak voor een snelle uitrol van 5g vergroot. De deelnemers zouden van te voren een momentopname van hun geestelijke en lichamelijke welbevinden krijgen, en gedurende de looptijd van het project via smart technieken.

Het 5G congres op 15 september in de Melkweg (update)

Ondertussen zijn er meerdere gastsprekers bijgekomen.

Meer info

Doe mee en steun, kom 15 september naar De Melkweg

Op 15 september bestaat de mogelijkheid dat u zich in een keer volledig op de hoogte kunt brengen over deze materie, als u de volgende stappen zet:

  1. neem kennis van de informatie in de links in de vorige paragraaf
  2. bereid vragen voor
  3. boek een kaartje voor Ultimate Science, 5G: The Trojan Horse via Ticketmaster
  4. stel uw vragen: aan de experts, het publiek in de zaal en het on-line publiek
  5. informeer de mensen om u heen
  6. zeg samen met de mensen om u heen tegen uw bestuurders dat ze het onderzoek ‘Bed Bad Brood en bestuurlijke ongehoorzaamheid’ lezen en u uitleggen waarom dat niet van toepassing is op 5g
  7. houdt ons op de hoogte van de reacties van uw bestuurders via en Facebook

Speciaal voor Maastrichtenaren

  • geef u op voor een reis per touringcar bij, 20 euro per persoon
  • vertrek op 15/9 om 16 uur bij de Geusselt in Maastricht; retour op 16/9 om ongeveer 00.30 uur bij de Geusselt [ruime parkeergelegenheid, vlak naast de A2]


Actieplan #5G: kom in actie nu het nog niet te laat is
Maastrichtenaren in verzet tegen #5G, maar bieden gemeente wel een plan
en Emil Möller over 5G

5G haalt 3000 feet

5G  wordt op een lagere frequenties gezet zoals 3,5 GHz en de 700 MHz. De huidige frequenties voor 2g, 3g en 4g zullen ook in gebruik zijn voor 5g. Hoe lager de frequentie hoe groter/verder het bereik. 5G haalt 3000 feet en gaat wel degelijk door bomen en beton heen.


Op 3 juli 2018 heeft de overheid het Actieplan Digitale Connectiviteit gepubliceerd, waarin staat dat de overheid koploper wil worden in de installatie van 5G.

  • Daarop heeft de overheid op 16 juli een concept wetsvoorstel gepubliceerd waarin staat dat gemeenten verplicht zijn mee te werken aan de uitrol van 5G, met andere woorden ook de gemeenteraad wordt volledig gepasseerd.
  • Als voorbereiding op de bespreking van het wetsvoorstel in de Kamer is er een zogenaamde internetconsultatie. Klik daar op de knop ‘Geef uw reactie op deze consultatie’ en type je bericht in het tekstvak ‘Uw reactie’.  De al geplaatste openbare reacties kan je hier nalezen. Reageren kan nog tot 9 september. Na sluiting van de consultatie wordt het voorstel een wet.
  • Uitrol zal in eerste instantie plaatsvinden via de aanwezige 4G zenders. Gestart wordt met een relatief lage frequentie tot 2600 Megaherz.
  • De veilingen van de frequenties zal plaatsvinden eind 2019 en begin 2020 en eind 2021/ begin 2022.

Landelijke demo 9 september

Op maandag 9 september 12.00 uur start de landelijke demonstratie in Den Haag tegen de uitrol van 5G.


Brekend Doutzen Kroes is wakker: pas op voor de straling van je mobieltje en 5G! en op haar Facebook

15 september Melkweg

Beste Stop5G pioniers,

5G is sluitstuk van totale controle over de mens, zowel fysiek, mentaal, emotioneel als spiritueel. Het heeft effect op al het Leven op aarde en moet dus worden tegengehouden.

Gelukkig zij er veel Nederlanders op hun eigen manier actief om 5G tegen te gaan. Maar de tijd van de goedbedoelde speldeprik-achtige acties, postings, likes en shares is voorbij. De uitrol is achter de schermen al in gang gezet.

Willen we ons doel bereiken, dan dienen we massaal zichtbaar te zijn; dan maken wij het verschil en moeten onze bestuurders gaan inzien dat Nederland geen 5G wil.

15 september is een mooie kans hiervoor. Bestel daarom je ticket via onderstaande link en kom met zoveel mogelijk mensen naar de Melkweg in Amsterdam.

Als wij de zaal vol krijgen, zal de mainstream media er wel over moeten schrijven. Hopelijk tot 15 september!

video oproep Landelijke demonstratie 9 september a.s. in Den haag

Lieve Allemaal,

Hierbij laten we jullie ons laatste opname zien voor de landelijke demonstratie.
Kunnen jullie en willen jullie dit aub zo veel mogelijk verspreiden in jullie netwerk, momenteel ondervinden Maria (van we are chance) al veel van de censuur, waardoor al meerdere keren de links op diverse kanalen zijn verwijdert.
Hierbij de enige link die het nog doet.
Fijn dat jullie er zijn!
Alvast dank!

Tot 09-09 iig!

Liefs Georgette en Petra